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Is it possible to date outside your professional progress and last?

April 11, 2011


Six (gulp) years ago I wrote an article for The Heights, the “independent student newspaper of Boston College”, called, “Can you date outside your style zone and last?” It was about whether couples un-like-minded in the fashion department stood a chance at long-term survival. What do clothing choices say/not say about a person, and how much does whatever they say predict how a relationship will end up? A hipster may love a prep but where would they buy their housewares?

Three (still gulping) years ago I wrote a post for this very blog called, “Can you date outside your drinking zone and last?” It was about whether couples un-like-minded in the drinking department stood a chance at long-term survival. What does drinking style and degree say/not say about a person, and how much does whatever it says predict how a relationship will end? A black-out-on-the-weekends may love a just-whatever-white-wine-you-have-please but when will she tell him to get his act together or leave?

And now today, an unexpected third installation in this accidental series – a topic that is eye-rollingly appropriate to this less shallow, more sober phase in our 20-nothings lives.

Can you date outside your professional progress zone and last?

The topic came up over Larchmont Bungalow brunch with Meryl. We were talking about where we are in our careers and what that positions says about a person. What it can predict about how that person related to the person they’re dating was a natural next step.

  • A go-getter, 27-year-old financial analyst on the fast-track to making VP starts dating a struggling creative-type still living pay check to pay check.
  • A successful creative-type sees their long-term significant other go from motivated freelance journalist to un-motivated curmudgeon.
  • A curmudgeonly un-motivated freelance journalist discovers their writing/life partner is far less of a kindred spirit in the anti-establishment department when their side project becomes a full-blown book deal.

Different scenarios at different dating stages with the same core issue – the style about which each person approaches work is drastically different.

I personally think it’s an important distinction to call out a difference in “style” versus “status.” An aspiring artist may be stalled in their career on account of the difficulty of becoming a working artist in comparison to the successful accountant they’ve been dating for years. The process of becoming an account is very different than the process of becoming an artist. That doesn’t mean the artist doesn’t work as hard as the accountant. Circumstance and style are different.

Of course for some people the distinction probably doesn’t matter.

I’ve got to image that for as many successful professionals who would support their struggling partners through thick and thin there are those who would feel more fulfilled, comfortable, or financially secure in a relationship with someone who is an equal contributor to their collective future.

“I think the real question with this whole issue is how it differs for men and women,” I said to Meryl. “I hate that I’m going to say this, but I feel like a man would be less secure or comfortable if he was the one stalling in the progress department.”

I said I hated that I was going to say it…

How much of a thing is this thing? As silly as dating outside your drinking zone? As serious as the style version?

I don’t have the personal experience to speak on the topic, but that’s probably because my OCD of the productive out-put variety has terrified anyone who actually likes to relax on the weekends…

5 comments

  1. I would agree that it seems like a man would be comfortable dating a woman who was not working at his style level, but a man would not be comfortable with a woman who was more career oriented and/or successfully minded than he was. Unfortunately, many men still think that women are just killing time with their career until they are mothers. There are some new generation men who may not feel the same, but I think that the majority of US households still have the man as the main or only breadwinner with the “real career” as opposed to a part-time job, artistic endeavor, etc… Go to any retail establishment and see women of various ages in low-paying positions as the majority.

  2. My boyfriend of 6 years and I are of the struggling artist vs federal cop category, and it can and has been an issue. In lifestyles, in monetary contributions, in wall decorations. But we continue to be committed to each other, because after our three hour fight about where we should live next or whether I should quit my day job to pursue theater full time, we snuggle together on the couch and just remember that we love each other and it’s worth it for us.

  3. I hope not. But ignoring the desert I’ve been in, I’ll admit I’m reticent to make moves on more successful women for fear of being a burden, or because I feel like certain boyfriend duties, maybe not universally, but for me – buying gifts, being able to travel [either with them, to see them, etc], or other things not supported by a starving artist’s salary, are outside my means, and they deserve better.

  4. I work in newspaper, and my husband is in school. I’m proud to say he’s completely OK with me having the primary income. Maybe that doesn’t totally refute the theory — he is making progress. Since I’m in a dying industry married to a broke student, I can really appreciate the pressure of being the “provider.” We’ve always said we would support each other in our career choices — and we are very different — and I like to think that if I continue making more than he makes, it would continue to be a nonissue.

  5. This is kind of a cop-out answer – but I really think it depends on the 2 people in the situation. I have married friends who comprise just about every combination:
    Artist Wife & Doctor Husband;
    Banker Wife & Student Husband;
    Teacher Wife & Engineer Husband;
    ADvertising VP Wife & Computer Software Salesman Husband

    I don’t think you can make a black and white rule for this one, Jessie 🙂

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